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Phrases about "presentation" in recruitment ads.

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  • freedom74
  • Its always struck me as odd, or signalling a hidden agenda.

    I've known for years that people with a lot of sense, who are going for a certain job and are highly motivated to work, will present themselves at their best [by default], well if they're really serious anyway.

    So when it says "well presented" or "immaculate presentation"................is the hidden agenda, physically attractive persons only or those who are cashed up to have expensive clothing, high grooming etc.

    Discuss.
  • Freshie
  • At least they're not asking you for an immaculate conception! That'd be a lot tougher.
  • tecks
  • Give it a rest already! You're ugly! We get it!
  • big eddie
  • It's actually a federal act that was past a few years back to exclude transexuals from public facing positions.

    I thought you would have got the memo.
  • Oblivia
  • Usually stuff like 'well presented' only comes up in customer service type jobs. They basically want people to be neat and clean. Goodlooking helps, but so does stuff like, a good work history, training, and people skills. So um, good luck with that.
  • Dollbaby
  • there is no hidden agenda. just use a little common sense, some companies have a casual clothing policy; some are more strict and demand well pressed business shirts and suits.

    1. being easy on the eyes does help however it's not the key factor in getting hired for any job.

    2. if they are so cashed up. they would not be going for jobs but living it up big.

    3. most jobs require a degree of grooming. depending on what job you are after depends on the level of grooming.
  • freedom74
  • When the job's not rocket science and only requires modest intelligence, is it easier to rank applicants according to appearance or being easy on the eyes?

    My brother and father said even though employers talk about skills, its worth jack really, they're concerned about their image and your persona cos its the stuff they can't change, skills are always easy to teach or impart to willing workers of at least modest intelligence. Btw, Dad is a businessman and my brother has experience in hospitality supervision and lists the Adelaide Hilton on his CV.

    Everywhere I went I noticed that I was up against [and its subjective, but I'm not too harsh a judge I reckon] physically attractive individuals and people whose appearance was easy on the eye. This is primarily a reflection of their natural appearance endowed by nature, influenced a little by grooming but grooming can only do so much if someone is not attractive at all or not anatomically correct.
  • freedom74
  • It means: must be anatomically correct or you will be forever condemned to menial tasks in our broom closet or basement, if they take you on and for those tasks it would be because nobody wants the job.
  • Tha Gooch
  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by tecks

    Give it a rest already! You're ugly! We get it!

  • freedom74
  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by big eddie

    It's actually a federal act that was past a few years back to exclude transexuals from public facing positions.

    I thought you would have got the memo.

    It is the ACT & SA that were the earliest places in Australia to include transsexuals in discrimination law, other states had to be dragged kicking and screaming, by our tiny lobbies, toward reform.

    Law doesn't change attitudes but, it does introduce a new layer of deception as law is really optional half the time for the powerful in the community anyway, they don't get the book thrown at them.
  • bumba
  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by freedom74


    Discuss.

    :eyeroll:

    its to weed out people with bad teeth
  • big eddie
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  • magictorch
  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by freedom74

    When the job's not rocket science and only requires modest intelligence, is it easier to rank applicants according to appearance or being easy on the eyes?

    When the job's not rocket science and only requires modest intelligence, if there's a range of applicants there'll still be a range of skills, abilities, and personalities.

    I don't doubt that looks can play a part from time to time. I would say that personality plays a much bigger part though.
  • Royal
  • I had someone come in a few months back for a second interview. HR had done the screener and he came in to meet me. Literally looked like he had just gotten out of bed. It's an instant fail.

    No, it wasn't retail, but a mid-level job in the corporate sector.
  • big eddie
  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by bumba

    :eyeroll:

    its to weed out people with bad teeth

    Exactly, who wants to work with people who have bad teeth.
  • freedom74
  • Its probably not the teeth per se, but what that state of health represents, eg utter impecuniosity and gross impoverishment.

    Plus the old, and I've been guilty or such presumptions too like so many out there, stereotypes about poor people being either stupid, rough and/or criminals.
  • BootyCamp
  • Well groomed = dont turn up to an interview in ripped jeans, unkempt hair, three day growth etc. Its taking a bit of pride in your appearance not a beauty contest.
  • magictorch
  • I don't think the presentation requirement has anything to do with physical attractiveness.

    At work we can wear polo shirts and slacks most of the time if we want to, but if we meet a client we're expected to wear a suit and tie because it shows a more professional appearance. Women in the office have a similar dress code.

    That's all it is. You're crazy if you think that employers would actually use a written job ad to try and weed out ugly applicants, it just doesn't happen.

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